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Charles William Nelson 

Charles Nelson was one of the officers on HMS India. His leg injured in the torpedo attack and subsequently, after the war, he had to have his left leg amputated. Much of this story is told by his granddaughter, Deborah, who has shared his and her story with me.

She wrote that he had been serving on the India since 1913 when the vessel was still being used by P & O. He was one of the older members of the India crew and was 38 years old when the vessel was lost. Twenty-two days later, Deborah’s mother was born. Charles Nelson was allowed two periods of Leave of Absence, the first over Christmas in 1916 and the second from September to October in 1918 and so he would have seen his young family a couple of times across the three years he was interned.

Deborah was unaware that the officers had lived outside of the camp and she said that it made the photographs that she had found of her grandfather’s make more sense as they were often of parties or socialising. Deborah wrote in detail about the trauma her grandfather went through upon returning to Britain.

“In Norway, it (his leg) had not caused him much pain or discomfort, but after the end of the war and his release, he was advised that the lump had become gangrenous. The following year, almost to the day, he was admitted to Lady Whittaker’s Private Hospital at Pylewell Park to have his left leg amputated.

The postcard he sent to my grandmother appears to have been written on the evening following his arrival there. It is postmarked 9:55 p.m., 22 November 1920. The postcard shows the exterior of the hospital.[1] A window is indicated by an inked cross and the inscription reads, I slept here in room with 7 beds. I live under the X and very nice too. I think that is one of the best views I have seen. Yours C.

To me this seems so amazingly understated from a man who had been in an internment camp for four years and who had his leg cut off. Four months later, 16 March 1921, he was back at sea.

She goes on to describe the leg he then wore for the rest of his life and her memories of him.

“It was some early form of hard articulated plastic with leather straps, hung on a hook from the top of the wardrobe together with its sock and shoe and I being just a child, was curiously fascinated by it. I have often wondered how he negotiated the stairways board ship with a false leg. The engine room would have been well below decks and quite difficult to manoeuvre.

Grandfather died in March of 1957 having lived through the turmoil of two world wars. I can remember him musing to me that the daffodils would be out soon. They bloomed a day or two after he died.

He had been athletic and had been a fine swimmer and a competent skier. He had brought his wooden skis and poles back with him from Norway but, of course, never used them again after the amputation. They remained thereafter in the garage of our Essex home until I used them playing on a local street slope in the bitter winter of 1962/3 and managed to snap one of the skis.”

One mystery remains from Charles Nelson and his photograph album. There is a single photo of a noticeably young boy, only one year old. Deborah was always at a loss as to why, amongst photos of skiing, socialising and internee life there was this one photo of this young child.

Since finding out the officers did not live-in camp and that many of them married and had children, Deborah has found herself with more questions than answers. Questions about a photograph of a little boy that will probably never be answered.

 

[1] Note, Pylewell Park is an exclusive and vast country house in Hampshire near Lymington. The top floor of the house was taken over as a hospital for officers during and just after the First World War.  The house has its own private beach and views across the Solent to the Isle of Wight as well as acres of private grounds.

William Tilley 

William Tilley was one of the many firemen on board the HMS India and his job, along with the others, would have been to tend to the massive coal-stoked fires that would have run continuously to keep the steam engines that drove the boat running.

William was 21 when the ship was torpedoed but had been onboard since 1914, before the war, when the ship was still a member of the P & O fleet. He was one of the many that was rescued by the Trawler Saxon. William Tilley can be seen in several photographs from Jørstadmoen including the one of all the crew sitting on the hill where he can be seen with his head poking through the HMS India life ring. He can also be seen in many of the football photographs.

Tilley was one of the small group of men who married a Norwegian lady. William and Agnethe Haugen, one of the camp’s cooks and a native of Fåberg, were married on 19 October 1918 and had only a brief time together before William was repatriated and sent back to Britain. His certificate of discharge from the Royal Navy is dated 28 January 1919 and from there he went back to his hometown, London and investigated joining the police force.

On returning to Norway to collect Agnethe he changed his mind and decided that he and his wife should remain in Norway and with a recommendation from Commander Kennedy, he applied for and was given a job on the Norwegian State Railways. After gaining Norwegian citizenship in October 1921, William and Agnethe settled into married life and had seven children.

But things were not to remain settled for long. William became involved in the Second World War after the Germans invaded in 1940 and this is where his story becomes more interesting. He was still working with the railways and was given the job (with several other men) of moving the engines to Lillehammer. This was achieved even though the Germans attacked several times during the move.

Soon after the English troops arrived and William Tilley was asked to assist as interpreter and guide. Late in April 1940, William was given the task of driving the engine of a train that was taking a Norwegian major to Hjerkinn on the Dovrebanen right through the section that Arnold and his other fellow internees had helped to build.

They never made it to their destination due to German bombing raids, but William’s skill and affinity with the English language led to him being promoted to locomotive-foreman and he worked in transporting the troops before escaping to London.

When he eventually escaped to London, he wrote a seven-page report on his activities during this period, but some of these were a lot less detailed than others and I  suspect he was not only helping the British troops but was also involved in the train movements that enabled the Norwegian Government to rescue its Gold reserves and get them to the coast at Åndalsnes, from which a Royal Navy cruiser carried them over to Scotland.

Tilley and a companion reached Åndalsnes on May 1st and although they had been promised passage on a ship, they soon found themselves held under armed guard by nervous troops who thought they were spies. Luckily, they were spotted by a major who they had helped earlier and were taken to General Paget, the Officer commanding, who strongly recommended that Tilley should leave Norway and his family as the Germans would certainly shoot him if he was captured.

So, he sailed away from Norway on board H.M.S Calcutta on 2 May and reached Scapa Flow the following day.

 Research uncovered that William returned to his hometown in London (West Ham) and assumed the role of an air raid warden, but this was not to last for long as in January 1942 he is released from this role to take up the position of Head Porter and senior fire guard at the Shaftesbury Hotel.

The Shaftesbury Hotel was in central London and was managed by the Norwegian Government. Roger Partridge questions whether William was working in the jobs he was listed as doing or whether this was a cover for some other military or undercover work, but by April 1943, William has left London and has joined the Norwegian Army. He was certainly having a busier war the second time around than he did the first time and it still was not over.

William survived an emergency landing in a plane in Sweden in 1945, where he lost everything but his life. Luckily for him and everyone else, the war was over about a week later and William was able to return to his wife and children in Norway. He had not seen them for five long years and had only been in contact through Red Cross Mail.

It must have been such a relief to finally settle down to family life again. William Tilley spent the rest of his working life on the Norwegian State Railways and died in 1976 and is buried in the Hamar valley region—not too far from Jørstadmoen.  (Much of this research and writing was undertaken by Roger Partridge, a gentleman who had a keen interest in the HMS India story and who had bought many of my grandfather-in-law’s letters).

Late in the writing of my book I was contacted by Linn Tilley Brandt, one of William Tilley’s grandchildren, seeking information on her grandfather.

I asked Linn to alert me to any inaccuracies in William’s story. She wrote that “all the information seems to be correct” and then went on to say that “World War Two was extra difficult for the family because William was English and they would not talk about it, so my father could not tell much. He did not know anything about his English relatives, the only contact he got was birthday cards from his grandmother.”

I was also contacted by Kjell-Arne, one of William’s other grandchildren and he reassured me “your story seems to be close to my walk down the memory lane.”

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William Knight Lamb 

William Knight Lamb was an Officers Steward on HMS India and my early research had shown that he was born in 1892, was mentioned in the 1917 tally of interned men and had performed in the 1918 Varieties Concert. Research by Roger Partridge had also revealed that he had married a Norwegian woman by the name of Anna Roed.

After seeing that he had petitioned to remain in Norway after the war, I attempted to research him more thoroughly and came across an article in the Henley Standard. The article, written in May 2020, outlined the work being done by Mike Willoughby to get Henley men recognised for their involvement in World War 1 or 2 and have them listed in the Commonwealth War Graves registry.

Mike had not only been researching the life and war involvement of William Lamb (or William Knight Lamb) but also that of Lieutenant John Henry Biggs. I managed to find a way to email Mike and in September 2020, we enjoyed a lengthy telephone conversation about our research.

In that conversation, Mike mentioned that he was in contact with William Knight Lamb’s grandson and would I be happy for him to pass on my contact information—of course, I was and, to cut a long story short, Peter Lamb lives 15 minutes from my front door and we have since met in a pub on the banks of the Thames and shared stories about our ancestors.

William Knight Lamb was born in Brixton and signed up to the navy at the age of sixteen. After onshore training he first set sail in 1910 and then was at sea until 1913. The 1911 census has him as an Officers Steward in the Royal Navy at Sea and in Ports Abroad.

Peter Lamb writes, “In 1913 his name appears in a number of police gazettes in Australia and New Zealand. They might relate to something that occurred that was related to me by my Great Aunt Nellie (William Knight Lamb’s sister). This concerned the death of a petty officer that had tormented and bullied my grandfather and other junior sailors. It is possible that he and others dealt with the matter which resulted in the death of the officer. According to Aunt Nellie, he received a King’s Pardon for the offence.”

William Knight Lamb’s official records note that he had “Run 11.4.13 ‘Pyramus’ Sydney” which I can only assume meant that he had absconded from his ship on the same day that the Brisbane Telegraph and The Sun newspapers have the ship leaving Sydney for New Zealand.

I have since found records in Australian Police gazettes advertising the missing man and offering a reward. The Tasmanian Police Gazette from 25 April 1913, states, “Absent without leave. On the 11th instant ~ William Knight Lamb, Officers Steward, native of England, age 21 years, height 5 feet 6 ½ inches, brown hair and eyes and dark complexion. A reward of £1 is offered for the arrest of this absentee.”

The South Australian Police Gazette of 30 April of the same year states “From HMS Penguin, at Sydney on the 11th instant. William Knight Lamb, Officers Steward, 21 years of age, English, 5ft 6 ½ inches, brown hair, high forehead, brown eyes, clean teeth, round face, dark complexion, £1 reward on arrest.”

Comparable listings were also found in the New Zealand Police Gazette and the Victorian one. One way or another, he found himself back in the UK by the start of the war.

By 1915, William was back on ships and was one of the men that was on HMS India when it was torpedoed. Whilst the records have him mentioned in the 1917 camp list and on the 1918 Varieties Concert programme, William was afforded the opportunity to work outside of the camp. This is unsurprising considering that William was an Officers Steward and all the Officers lived out of the camp for much of the time.

The telegram that requests the permission for William to remain in Norway has his position listed as a messenger for the Naval Vice-Consulate in Bergen. Bergen is almost 450Km from the camp at Jørstadmoen so if he was working there before the end of the war it is unlikely that he spent much of his time at the camp.

The first record we have of William post-WW1 is his marriage certificate. He is married in May of 1919 to Anna Roed, a local 21-year-old woman from Bergen. Mike Willoughby’s research led him to record that Anna was “a member of a local concert party who played at the camp to entertain the internees.” Whilst I agree that there were likely to be musicians visiting the camp every now and then, I think that there might also be the possibility that Anna and William met in Bergen, whilst he was working there. It would seem to be a long way for Anna to travel to entertain British internees, but I’ve no solid proof either way. Anna and William were back in England residing in Henley-upon-Thames by 1920 when their first child, Raymond was born. William returned to sea and their second child, Daphne, was born in 1934.

At the commencement of the Second World War, William was still serving in the merchant navy and this is where his story ends. Records show that William Knight Lamb died and was buried at sea, in the Red Sea, on 2nd October 1941. He was serving on the SS Strathnever and was reported to have died of heat stroke and exhaustion and was buried, coincidentally, in the same sea as his father was.

Able Seaman/Gunner Will Keats 

One of the last descendants I contacted was Bill Anstead, the grandson of Will Keats. Bill had undertaken extensive research of his own in the early 2000s and had completed the massive feat of sailing 3000km from Scotland to Bodø in 2007 and visited Helligvær Islands and dropped flowers over the wreck site. He had been in contact with the relatives of Commander Kennedy and they were kind enough to introduce him to me. Bill’s research has been a fantastic addition to my own.

Will Keats was a career sailor who had joined the navy at the age of 17 as a cadet and two years later was promoted to Able Seaman. He was trained as a gunner and proved to be a very talented one, winning various competitions. He left the navy in 1908 but was retained as a member of the Royal Fleet Reserves and was then recalled as an Able Seaman to serve during WW1.

He left on HMS India in 1915, leaving a pregnant wife and three children behind. His daughter, Agnes, was born four weeks after the torpedo attack and in honour of the time Will spent in hospital in Bodø, she was given the middle name and was known as, Bodø. Her full name was Agnes India Bodø Keats.

Will had suffered back injuries during the sinking and rescuing and was hospitalised in Bodø for a time and did not accompany the rest of the crew in their journey to Jørstadmoen but joined them once he had been discharged from hospital.

Grandson Bill reports that Will Keats is not thought to have participated much in sports activities but he was a central figure in arranging and participating in self-made entertainment within the camp. The programme for the 1918 concert lists him singing songs in parts I and II. His sense of humour shows in the advert for Snowflake Laundry— “Mingling a specialty, send your dirties without delay.”

Will waited three long years before being granted leave to return to England and finally meet the daughter who was born four weeks after the torpedo attack. He left Norway on the 4 October 1918 with the conditions that he was to return in 45 days. War ending on the 11 November meant that Will never had to return, although he did maintain fifty years of contact with the local Hammershaug family with whom he had built a friendship during his time in internment.

Commander William G A Kennedy 

I found it exceedingly difficult to work out when my research was finished (I don't think it ever will be) and wondered that if I kept digging, I would keep finding more descendants and more stories to tell and I would have to stop somewhere, but I knew that there was one contact that I wanted to make and that was with Marie Barltrop.

I had seen her name mentioned a few times on different documents and believed that she had been heavily involved in the creation of the now defunct HMS India website and was perhaps related to Commander Kennedy. It was December 2020 when I finally had a breakthrough. During yet another lockdown and whilst researching Commander Kennedy, I came across a reference to Ken Barltrop on an incomplete website written by K Groenha (www.kgroenha.net).

The website was about a relative of Commander Kennedy’s who had spent considerable time, coincidentally, in Norway in the nineteenth-century and it also made mention of the Kennedy family home in Ulverston, Stone Cross. I swiftly googled Ken and Marie Barltrop and a few pages in, I found an email address. Without knowing if these were the people I was looking for I hastily typed out an email introducing myself and explaining that I was wishing to contact the descendants of Commander Kennedy.

A mere two hours later I had a reply and bingo! I had found Marie and her husband Ken and through them, Marie’s brother, Bill. Not only had I found them, but they were happy to talk and share resources with me and I in turn shared things for the website that Ken was endeavouring to get published once more.

William George Ainslie Kennedy was born in 1873, the son of a very wealthy Cumberland mine owner. He was an experienced and decorated naval officer who had been promoted to Lieutenant at the age of 25 and then to Commander at age 34 whilst serving in the Mediterranean. It was during this period that he was awarded the Commander of the Order of the Crown of Italy owing to the work he had done to assist in the rescuing of civilians following the Messina earthquake of 1908.

Commander Kennedy took over the command of HMS India after her refitting and was in command when she was torpedoed. It was he who decided that his men would be better served remaining in Norway instead of risking placing near drowned, unclothed men on unsatisfactory vessels to try and get them back to England and it was he who stayed with them. I have written earlier about some of the external views of Commander Kennedy and unfortunately, neither Marie nor Bill got to meet their grandfather as he died before they were born.

They did, however, spend time with their grandmother, Alice Fedora Kennedy (nee Lundh) who, herself, was the daughter of a Norwegian Naval commander and had married the commander in Norway in February 1916. Bill writes— “There is only one story that my grand-mother repeated from time to time and that was about my grand-father having “gone down with the ship’, only to resurface amidst the turmoil and turbulence to be rescued and to become one of those fortunate to survive the sinking.”

Bill and Marie’s father, Myles Harold William Kennedy, was born in Norway in April 1917. The descriptions given by the Norwegians of Commander Kennedy seem to be of a larger-than-life man, who had a taste for the good life but the family and the family biographer, Stuart Allison, give the impression that the Commander was a “true gentleman.”[1]

 

[1] Allison, Stuart. The Kennedys of Stone Cross Mansion. Pixeltweaks Publications, Ulverston, Cumbria. 2014 p64

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The photo above has been shared with me by a couple of different sources but it never twigged with me that firstly, Arnold is in it, and secondly, he would be able to help me identify the other men in the photo.  The image to the right is the reverse of the image above and Arnold has helpfully annotated it.  I have had to do some research as to some of the nicknames but I am relatively confident that I have it right as most of the men seem to be from rooms 5 and 6.

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Putty (painter) - Benjamin Baile, room 6

3rd Watch 'Tiffey' (Engine Room Artificer) - William Gillon, room 5

Armie (Chief Armourer) - Thomas Sanders, room 5

2nd watch 'Tiffey' - Arnold Clarke, room 5

Jimmy Bungs (Cooper) - Arthur William Green, room 6

Plumber - Carl T Anderson, room 6

Doughey (baker) - Robert Lawrence, room 5

Dodor? (this one confuses me - it could be the Tempy Surgeon Frank Lawson but I would have thought that he would reside with the other officers so I have a feeling it is Donkeyman) - William Hammond, room 5

Chippy chaps (carpenters) - John Roland Anderson, William James, Andrew Johnstone.  I am unsure as to which one is which.

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